Tuesday, August 23, 2011

ANDREW MESSENGER 1588-

[Ancestral Link: Lura Minnie Parker (Stagge), daughter of Minnie May Elmer (Parker), daughter of Mark Alfred Elmer, son of Hannah Polina Child (Elmer), daughter of Alfred Bosworth Child, son of Hannah Benedict (Child), daughter of Hannah Carter (Benedict), daughter of Hannah Benedict (Carter), daughter of Thomas Benedict, son of Thomas Benedict, son of Mary Messenger (Benedict), daughter of Andrew Messenger, son of Andrew Messenger.]

Messenger

ANDREW MESSENGER was born 1589 in Yorkshire, England, and died 1681 in Wethersfield, Hartford County, Connecticut. He married Sarah. She was born 1593 in England.

Andrew arrived in America from England with his family about 1630. He is probably from Lincolnshire or Yorkshire. Though their origin is not positively known, we might entertain the possibility that our ancestors are from Gloucestershire whose arms "Ar., a chevron between three close helmets S a.,;". In the church at Painswick, 6 miles south of Gloucester, are several memorials of the Massinger family, formerly of Gloucester, whose arms are : "Argent a chevron gules between three helmets sable.". In the Herald's college, London, the same arms are entered as borne by John Messenger of Newisham, county of York, who died in 1616, aged 70 years , and was buried at Kirk Ravensworth. Two of his sons, Henry and Anthony, were killed in the service of King Charles I, and another, John Messenger, Esq., born in 1590, was the owner of the Fountain Abbey estate, near Ripon, in 1627. That the family of Andrew had the right of Arms is shown by the will of the widow Messenger of Boston, which mentions that Simeon (the eldest son of Henry then living), is to have the "Messinger coat of arms." As Simeon died without male heirs, these arms were probably lost.

Notes for ANDREW MESSENGER
ANDREW MESSENGER, The immigrant ancestor, was born about 1588 in England, probably in Lincolnshire, or Yorkshire. He married Sarah? He emigrated to Massachusetts in 1610. (according to "History of County of Annapolis, Nova Scotia," by W.A. Gaines, pub. 1597, Andrew and his three sons arrived in Boston from England in 1637). The 1610 version is from Estelle Messenger Harrington. Another source states the year was 1630. The author fears it is impossible to determine the exact year in which Andrew Messenger, Sr., and sons arrived in the New World, Charles Edward Fanks, in his "Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants to New England, 1620-1650" includes the names of Andrew's three sons but does not give the year of their arrival, nor the name of the ship on which they made the journey. The author has been unable to learn in what year Andrew Sr., died.

From Savage: MESSINGER, ANDREW, Norwalk, 1672, may have been as early as 1639 at New Haven, in 1687 had good estimate but no mention of him after is found.

Children of ANDREW MESSENGER and SARAH are:2.
i. EDWARD2 MESSENGER, born 1617, England; died May 12, 1688, Bloomfield, Hartford County, Connecticut.3.
ii. ANDREW MESSENGER II, born 1615, England; died before 1681, Jamaica, Queens County, Long Island, New York.
iii. HENRY MESSENGER, born 1618.

Notes for HENRY MESSENGER:
Note of interest about Henry.
In his will. He left all his estate to his wife with the power to divide it as she might choose among her children, with the exception of his oldest son, John, to whom he bequeathed. "Five shillings and no more, for reasons bestknown to myself."
found on ancestry.com

Andrew Messinger Sr.
Andrew Messenger Sr. was born in 1589, probably in Lincolnshire or in Yorkshire, England. The records tend to mix him up with his son, Andrew, and give them the same date of death. I don't believe it is known when Andrew Messenger Sr. died. Though their origin is not positively known, we might consider the possibility that our Messinger ancestors were from Gloucestershire, England, whose arms "Ar., a chevron between three close helmets Sa.,;". In the church at Painswick, 6 miles south of Gloucester, are several memorials of the Massinger family, formerly of Gloucester, whose arms are: "Argent a chevron gules between three helmets sable." In the Herald's college, London, the same arms are entered as borne by John Messenger of Newisham, county of York, who died in 1616, aged 70 years, and was buried at Kirk Ravensworth. Two of his sons, Henry and Anthony, were killed in the service of King Charles I, and another, John Messenger, Esq., born in 1590, was the owner of the Fountain Abbey estate, near Ripon, in 1627. That the family of Andrew had the right of Arms is shown by the will of the widow of Andrew Messenger Jr. of Boston, which mentions that Simeon (the eldest son of Henry (the son of Andrew Messinger, Sr.) then living), is to have the "Messinger coat of arms." As Simeon died without male heirs, these arms were probably lost.

There are several different dates given in different records for the immigration of Andrew Messenger and his three sons. Andrew Messenger's name does appear on the passenger list of the ship, Hector, which arrived in Boston on June 26, 1637, according to Governor Winthrop's records. He came with his wife Sarah and three children. Since I can't find any record of him until 1639, when he's listed at New Haven, I feel this is the record of the immigration of our ancestor, Andrew Messinger, from England to New England. From here on I will list the records I've found for Andrew Messinger, under Andrew Messinger Jr.(See his story.) Some of them could apply to Andrew Sr. instead or perhaps to both of them.

Andrew Messinger Sr. married Sarah____. She was born 1593 in England. Their children were:
Edward, born 1617, England; died May 12, 1688, Bloomfield, Hartford County, Connecticut.
Andrew, born 1615, England; died before 1681, Jamaica, Queens County, Long Island, New York.
Henry, born 1618 in England.

Source:
" The Hickok genealogy: descendants of William Hickoks of Farmington, Connecticut: with ancestry of Charles Nelson Hickok; Rutland, Vermont; Tuttle Publishing Company, 1938; pg. 385.
"Stories, Publications and Memories" at ancestry.com
found on ancestry.com

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